From john at duksta.org Tue Jun 3 06:21:06 2008 From: john at duksta.org (John Duksta) Date: Tue Jun 3 06:12:22 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] Reminders - Meeting, Hacker Jeopardy, and Shirts Message-ID: <25B4CA64-4517-4645-A105-02C763957A63@duksta.org> Hey Everybody, It's the day before the meeting, with this month being Hacker Jeopardy. There's been a little change in plans. I was going to host it, but NickD volunteered to do so, and since NickD is way funnier than me, I am happy to let him take over. That also means that I didn't have to write the questions. It also gave me more time to finish the lockout buzzer buttons, which are done. Shirts! Get your order forms to me. I'm going to send the order in on Friday. Fill it out, email it to me and bring me the cash at the meeting this week. If you choose to paypal, please be kind and add a couple bucks to cover the paypal fees. See you all tomorrow night, -john From john at duksta.org Fri Jun 6 08:40:50 2008 From: john at duksta.org (John Duksta) Date: Mon Jun 9 14:00:06 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] Bowling Shirt Ordered Needed By Sunday Night Message-ID: <48493052.3070804@duksta.org> Folks, I'm putting in the order on Monday. We need at least 11 shirts to hit the price break we were quoted. As of right now, I have 7 orders in. For those of you who have already ordered and paid, thank you. For the rest of you, I'll collect the money when I hand out the shirts at next month's meeting. Just get your order in and we'll deal with the funds later. -j =================================================================== DC401 Bowling Shirt Order Form Fill out and email to john {at} duksta [dot] org The Design: http://dc401.org/images/quahog-n-crossbones.png The Shirt: http://www.bowlingshirt.com/classics/blank/?productid=1 Name: Email: Size: Size Chart: http://www.bowlingshirt.com/sizes/classicchart.html Chain Stitched Name ($5 extra): Example: http://www.bowlingshirt.com/images/stitching/ch_bkwh2.jpg Suede Flock Embellishments: $3/ea http://www.bowlingshirt.com/images/flockgroup.gif Location* RC LC RF LF RS ------------------------------------------- 8-Ball [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Atomic Symbol [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Beer Mug [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Martini Glass [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Pin Man [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Red Dice [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Skull & Crossbones [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] White Dice [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Flame [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Ball & Pin [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Mud Flap Girl [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Yin Yang [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Route 66 [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Pink Heart [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Checkered Flags [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Eighth Note (Single) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Sixteenth Note (Double) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] * Embellishment Locations RC = Right Collar LC = Left Collar RF = Right Chest (Front) LF = Left Chest (Front) RS = Right Sleeve Price: Base Shirt (SM-2XL): $36 3XL(+$2), 4XL(+$4): +$__ Name: +$ 5 Embellishments: $ 3 x _ +$__ -------------------------------- Total $__ =================================================================== From john at duksta.org Mon Jun 9 06:58:38 2008 From: john at duksta.org (John Duksta) Date: Mon Jun 9 14:00:08 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] Last Call for Bowling Shirts Message-ID: OK Slackers. I had a friend in from out of town this weekend and didn't get the order in over the weekend. That gives you all one last day to get your shirt orders in as I'll be sending them in tonight. Don't whine at me if you wanted one and don't get one because you didn't have enough notice. -j =================================================================== DC401 Bowling Shirt Order Form Fill out and email to john {at} duksta [dot] org The Design: http://dc401.org/images/quahog-n-crossbones.png The Shirt: http://www.bowlingshirt.com/classics/blank/?productid=1 Name: Email: Size: Size Chart: http://www.bowlingshirt.com/sizes/classicchart.html Chain Stitched Name ($5 extra): Example: http://www.bowlingshirt.com/images/stitching/ch_bkwh2.jpg Suede Flock Embellishments: $3/ea http://www.bowlingshirt.com/images/flockgroup.gif Location* RC LC RF LF RS ------------------------------------------- 8-Ball [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Atomic Symbol [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Beer Mug [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Martini Glass [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Pin Man [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Red Dice [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Skull & Crossbones [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] White Dice [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Flame [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Ball & Pin [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Mud Flap Girl [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Yin Yang [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Route 66 [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Pink Heart [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Checkered Flags [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Eighth Note (Single) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Sixteenth Note (Double) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] * Embellishment Locations RC = Right Collar LC = Left Collar RF = Right Chest (Front) LF = Left Chest (Front) RS = Right Sleeve Price: Base Shirt (SM-2XL): $36 3XL(+$2), 4XL(+$4): +$__ Name: +$ 5 Embellishments: $ 3 x _ +$__ -------------------------------- Total $__ =================================================================== From john at duksta.org Wed Jun 11 07:37:16 2008 From: john at duksta.org (John Duksta) Date: Wed Jun 11 07:28:34 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] Bowling Shirt Order has gone out Message-ID: <6067E12C-D2C1-4A47-80B7-5BAF2A9F949E@duksta.org> I just sent in the order this morning. If you didn't get me an order form by this morning, then you're probably out of luck. I haven't arranged payment with them yet, so there still might be time if you want to try to squeeze in by noon today. /ducksauz -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2413 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://hungus.hellyeah.com/pipermail/dc401-l/attachments/20080611/9a120484/smime.bin From matt at hackistan.us Tue Jun 17 13:57:08 2008 From: matt at hackistan.us (Matt) Date: Tue Jun 17 14:05:40 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI Message-ID: <4857FAF4.9030304@hackistan.us> I figure most folks remember the stink that was raised when a local school district talked about tagging students with RFID chips to keep track of them. Well.. looks like it is back! Anyone have any info on the implementation, vendors, or any other way they are going to pull this off? http://www.naturalnews.com/023445.html -Matt From mdematteo at verisign.com Tue Jun 17 14:35:49 2008 From: mdematteo at verisign.com (DeMatteo, Matthew) Date: Tue Jun 17 15:14:04 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI In-Reply-To: <4857FAF4.9030304@hackistan.us> Message-ID: <7598A5AD14275343A3887652391475266BEB52@DUL1WNEXMB03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> I love how the ACLU has an argument that children's privacy rights are being violated. Children + privacy = a Dateline who-dunnit special. But seriously, the implementation sounds horrific. A better idea would be an RFID ID tag (most schools require visible, standardized nametags already). That can be used to moniotor them in the school. The school has a responsibility to monitor kids in school and since some of these public schools are so huge, RFID seems like a reasonable strategy to track who is on campus, or when they get off campus. Just my .0049 gallon of gas's worth. DeMo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew DeMatteo Managed Security Services - Partner Support +1 - 401 - 456 - 1836 mdematteo@verisign.com -----Original Message----- From: dc401-l-bounces@dc401.org [mailto:dc401-l-bounces@dc401.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: dc401-l@dc401.org Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI I figure most folks remember the stink that was raised when a local school district talked about tagging students with RFID chips to keep track of them. Well.. looks like it is back! Anyone have any info on the implementation, vendors, or any other way they are going to pull this off? http://www.naturalnews.com/023445.html -Matt _______________________________________________ dc401-l mailing list dc401-l@dc401.org http://dc401.org/mailman/listinfo/dc401-l From dennis.brown at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 19:35:36 2008 From: dennis.brown at gmail.com (Dennis Brown) Date: Tue Jun 17 19:54:18 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI In-Reply-To: <7598A5AD14275343A3887652391475266BEB52@DUL1WNEXMB03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <4857FAF4.9030304@hackistan.us> <7598A5AD14275343A3887652391475266BEB52@DUL1WNEXMB03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Message-ID: <7c51daa40806171635y4c5ee3f3xb44c8f5d1f9f6829@mail.gmail.com> Well, someone has to know where are kids stranded on buses during a snow storm are... Dennis On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:35 PM, DeMatteo, Matthew wrote: > I love how the ACLU has an argument that children's privacy rights are > being violated. Children + privacy = a Dateline who-dunnit special. But > seriously, the implementation sounds horrific. A better idea would be an > RFID ID tag (most schools require visible, standardized nametags > already). That can be used to moniotor them in the school. The school > has a responsibility to monitor kids in school and since some of these > public schools are so huge, RFID seems like a reasonable strategy to > track who is on campus, or when they get off campus. > Just my .0049 gallon of gas's worth. > DeMo > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Matthew DeMatteo > > Managed Security Services - Partner Support > +1 - 401 - 456 - 1836 > > mdematteo@verisign.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dc401-l-bounces@dc401.org [mailto:dc401-l-bounces@dc401.org] On > Behalf Of Matt > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:57 PM > To: dc401-l@dc401.org > Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI > > I figure most folks remember the stink that was raised when a local > school district talked about tagging students with RFID chips to keep > track of them. Well.. looks like it is back! Anyone have any info on the > implementation, vendors, or any other way they are going to pull this > off? > > http://www.naturalnews.com/023445.html > > -Matt > _______________________________________________ > dc401-l mailing list > dc401-l@dc401.org > http://dc401.org/mailman/listinfo/dc401-l > _______________________________________________ > dc401-l mailing list > dc401-l@dc401.org > http://dc401.org/mailman/listinfo/dc401-l > From jdp001 at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 20:15:38 2008 From: jdp001 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?cGVwaW4=?=) Date: Tue Jun 17 20:31:39 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI In-Reply-To: <7c51daa40806171635y4c5ee3f3xb44c8f5d1f9f6829@mail.gmail.com> References: <4857FAF4.9030304@hackistan.us><7598A5AD14275343A3887652391475266BEB52@DUL1WNEXMB03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com><7c51daa40806171635y4c5ee3f3xb44c8f5d1f9f6829@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <170474116-1213747919-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-743436771-@bxe113.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> If my school had required nametags- I probably would have used them to make nice clean bumps... Clearly invisible fences are the real solution. /joe Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -----Original Message----- From: "Dennis Brown" Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:35:36 To:"DeMatteo, Matthew" Cc:dc401-l@dc401.org Subject: Re: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI Well, someone has to know where are kids stranded on buses during a snow storm are... Dennis On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:35 PM, DeMatteo, Matthew wrote: > I love how the ACLU has an argument that children's privacy rights are > being violated. Children + privacy = a Dateline who-dunnit special. But > seriously, the implementation sounds horrific. A better idea would be an > RFID ID tag (most schools require visible, standardized nametags > already). That can be used to moniotor them in the school. The school > has a responsibility to monitor kids in school and since some of these > public schools are so huge, RFID seems like a reasonable strategy to > track who is on campus, or when they get off campus. > Just my .0049 gallon of gas's worth. > DeMo > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Matthew DeMatteo > > Managed Security Services - Partner Support > +1 - 401 - 456 - 1836 > > mdematteo@verisign.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dc401-l-bounces@dc401.org [mailto:dc401-l-bounces@dc401.org] On > Behalf Of Matt > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:57 PM > To: dc401-l@dc401.org > Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI > > I figure most folks remember the stink that was raised when a local > school district talked about tagging students with RFID chips to keep > track of them. Well.. looks like it is back! Anyone have any info on the > implementation, vendors, or any other way they are going to pull this > off? > > http://www.naturalnews.com/023445.html > > -Matt > _______________________________________________ > dc401-l mailing list > dc401-l@dc401.org > http://dc401.org/mailman/listinfo/dc401-l > _______________________________________________ > dc401-l mailing list > dc401-l@dc401.org > http://dc401.org/mailman/listinfo/dc401-l > _______________________________________________ dc401-l mailing list dc401-l@dc401.org http://dc401.org/mailman/listinfo/dc401-l From sam at thompsonfive.com Tue Jun 17 21:22:30 2008 From: sam at thompsonfive.com (Samuel Thompson) Date: Tue Jun 17 21:39:22 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI In-Reply-To: <4857FAF4.9030304@hackistan.us> References: <4857FAF4.9030304@hackistan.us> Message-ID: Is it a sub-dermal implant or one of those THX-1138 ear tags? On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Matt wrote: > I figure most folks remember the stink that was raised when a local > school district talked about tagging students with RFID chips to keep > track of them. Well.. looks like it is back! Anyone have any info on the > implementation, vendors, or any other way they are going to pull this off? > > http://www.naturalnews.com/023445.html > > -Matt > _______________________________________________ > dc401-l mailing list > dc401-l@dc401.org > http://dc401.org/mailman/listinfo/dc401-l > From mikeaperez at hotmail.com Wed Jun 18 00:28:29 2008 From: mikeaperez at hotmail.com (M P) Date: Wed Jun 18 00:32:21 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI In-Reply-To: <4857FAF4.9030304@hackistan.us> References: <4857FAF4.9030304@hackistan.us> Message-ID: RE: Anyone have any info on the implementation, vendors, or any other way they are going to pull this off? iPhones/ipods, Apple, GPS-in-a-pencil > Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:57:08 -0400 > From: matt@hackistan.us > To: dc401-l@dc401.org > Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI > > I figure most folks remember the stink that was raised when a local > school district talked about tagging students with RFID chips to keep > track of them. Well.. looks like it is back! Anyone have any info on the > implementation, vendors, or any other way they are going to pull this off? > > http://www.naturalnews.com/023445.html > > -Matt > _______________________________________________ > dc401-l mailing list > dc401-l@dc401.org > http://dc401.org/mailman/listinfo/dc401-l _________________________________________________________________ The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the i?m Talkathon. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://hungus.hellyeah.com/pipermail/dc401-l/attachments/20080618/d699d7ff/attachment.html From mlucia at lucia-family.net Wed Jun 18 08:16:28 2008 From: mlucia at lucia-family.net (mlucia@lucia-family.net) Date: Wed Jun 18 08:25:36 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI In-Reply-To: References: <4857FAF4.9030304@hackistan.us> Message-ID: <45399.208.9.213.10.1213791388.squirrel@www.lucia-family.net> I believe the original article indicated that the tags would be attached to the kid's backpacks.... which seemed even more than stupid. here is the first paragraph: "A Rhode Island school district has announced a pilot program to monitor student movements by means of radio frequency identification (RFID) chips implanted in their schoolbags." "the hell with where the kid is, I want to know where his shit is..." guess it is just to eliminate the "I forgot my books" excuse mlucia > RE: > > Anyone have any info on the implementation, vendors, or any other way they > are going to pull this off? > > iPhones/ipods, Apple, GPS-in-a-pencil > > >> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:57:08 -0400 >> From: matt@hackistan.us >> To: dc401-l@dc401.org >> Subject: [dc401-l] RFID tagging in RI >> >> I figure most folks remember the stink that was raised when a local >> school district talked about tagging students with RFID chips to keep >> track of them. Well.. looks like it is back! Anyone have any info on the >> implementation, vendors, or any other way they are going to pull this >> off? >> >> http://www.naturalnews.com/023445.html >> >> -Matt >> _______________________________________________ >> dc401-l mailing list >> dc401-l@dc401.org >> http://dc401.org/mailman/listinfo/dc401-l > > _________________________________________________________________ > The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the i?m Talkathon. > http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving_______________________________________________ > dc401-l mailing list > dc401-l@dc401.org > http://dc401.org/mailman/listinfo/dc401-l > From john at duksta.org Tue Jun 24 14:06:57 2008 From: john at duksta.org (John Duksta) Date: Tue Jun 24 14:17:45 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] July Meeting - Rich MacVarish on SCADA Security and Auditing Security Devices Message-ID: <486137C1.6070009@duksta.org> This month we have Rich MacVarish coming up from the middle Atlantic states to give us a talk based on some work he's recently done with SCADA security. Rich recently had an opportunity to pen-test and audit a new SCADA firewall product. He'll be talking about the results of that work and what you shouldn't do when you implement a security product. This should be a very informative talk. Come on out and welcome Rich back to New England for his short visit. Date/Time: 9 July 2008 - 1730-1900 Location: AS220, 115 Empire St, Providence. /ducksauz From john at duksta.org Tue Jun 24 16:37:32 2008 From: john at duksta.org (John Duksta) Date: Tue Jun 24 16:29:07 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] bowling shirts are in! Message-ID: <48615B0C.1040706@duksta.org> Hey Everyone, If you ordered a bowling shirt, it's in. You can either pick it up at the July meeting (July 9th) or if you really can't wait that long, you can make arrangements with me to meet up somewhere at my convenience and get it then. -j From john at duksta.org Sat Jun 28 11:37:13 2008 From: john at duksta.org (John Duksta) Date: Sat Jun 28 11:29:42 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] Free Tonight? Come to AS220 Fool's Ball! Message-ID: Hey Everyone, If you don't have anything better going on tonight, you should come out to AS220 for the Fool's Ball. It's actually happening right next door to AS220 at the Pell/Chafee Auditorium. Brian Jepson and I (and probably Brandon and Tyler) will be manning the 'geek tables' where we'll have a bunch of built electronics kits for people to play with along with the "Frienemy" game that we developed custom for Fool's Ball. There will also be a table where people can make LED throwies. And, oh yeah, there's music and stuff too. :) http://www.as220.org/foolsball/foolsball2008.html It's AS220's big fundraiser for the year, so come on out and support the folks who are kind enough to let us meet in the performance space every month. /ducksauz -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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However, Brandon will be around, so for anyone that wants to swing by and hang out, he'll be there. -j From brandon at cs.uri.edu Mon Jun 30 15:20:21 2008 From: brandon at cs.uri.edu (Brandon Edens) Date: Mon Jun 30 15:31:10 2008 Subject: [dc401-l] tuesday night hack this week In-Reply-To: <486930F4.9090502@duksta.org> References: <486930F4.9090502@duksta.org> Message-ID: <20080630192021.GH12342@bruno.home> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 07:16:04PM +0000, John Duksta wrote: > > So, I looked at my schedule this week and realized that despite my best > intentions, I can't make it to the hack this week. > > However, Brandon will be around, so for anyone that wants to swing by and > hang out, he'll be there. Yes. I'll put a sign on the door (the one on the left with my telephone number) so you all can call me when you arrive. I'm going to spend time working with my arduino board and trying to figure out why the programmer does not work under GNU/Linux x86 or x86_64. 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